[1. Call to Order.] [00:00:15] GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY 14, 2026. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WONDERFUL. WELCOME TO EVERYONE. FEEL FREE TO ENJOY YOURSELF WE DO HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM . DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER? >> NO, JUDGE PETE HEARING UNCOUPLE WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER FORMAT,. >> NEED A MOTION. INSPECT ANY SECOND? >> IF SO, LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. [4. Take all appropriate action to revise the capitalization threshold for subscription-based Information Technology (IT) Agreements to a minimum of $100,000 per year with a total minimum of $400,000 for qualifying capital expenditures only.] ITEM NUMBER 4. >> TAKE ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION TO REVISE THE CAPITALIZATION THRESHOLD FOR SUBSCRIPTION -BASED INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY I AGREEMENTS TO A MINIMUM OF $1,000 A YEAR WITH THE TOTAL MINIMUM OF 400,000 FOR QUALIFYING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ONLY. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROV AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND? >> AYE. >> ANY DISCUSSION. [5. Take all appropriate action to revise the capitalization threshold for Certificates of Obligation-funded projects to a minimum of $100,000 for qualifying capital expenditures only.] >> ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WE WILL TAKE ACTION ITEM NUMBER 5 AS PRESENTED. CAN YOU BEAT THAT? >> TAKE ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION TO REVISE THE CAPITALIZATION THRESHOLD FOR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FUNDED PROJECTS TO A MINIMUM OF $100,000 FOR QUALIFYING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ONLY. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 4 AS PRESENTED? SECOND? >> SECOND. >> DISCUSSIONS AND COMMENTS. >> JUST ONE. IN DOING THIS I'M THINKING ABOU SOME OF THE WORK THAT OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT DOES AND SOME OF THE OFFICES, THOSE THINGS, IF THEY'RE THEY ARE UNDER $100,000, THIS POLICY CHANGE WOULD NO LONGER QUALIFY. >> CORRECT. >> HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT MA IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEI WORK? >> THE FOCUS HERE IS TO IDENTIF THE ITEMS THAT ARE MORE MATERIA IN NATURE AND BETTER QUALIFY AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT SHOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR THAT . THIS ACTUALLY POSITIONING FOR A MORE STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR CONTROLLING YOUR DEBT. REVOLVER THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF OUR DEBT CURRENTLY AND THIS IS ONE OF PROBABLY MANY STEPS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. >> BY A LARGE RIGHT NOW SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE BUILDING A NOTION THAT THEY'RE TEAM DOES OUR WITHIN BUDGET, CORRECT. >> IF IT WAS ABOVE THE CURRENT THRESHOLD, NO. BUT FOR FUTURE CIP INITIATIVES THAT FALL BELOW THESE NEW THRESHOLDS COME ABOUT TO APPROV THIS ONE. THOSE WITH THEN BECOME OPERATIN EXPENSES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE OPERATING BUDGET. >> AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS CIP THAT WOULD NOT QUALIFY WITH THE NEW THRESHOLD AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THEM AS OPERATING BUDGET SO WE ARE STILL GOING TO DISCUSS THEM TODAY THOSE ARE VALID PROJECTS UNDER BEING REQUESTED BUT IF THE COURT CHOOSES RF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PROJECTS , THEY WOULD BE ADDED TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, NOT TWO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OR ANY KIND OF DEBT FINANCING. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. WE REACT TO THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN REAL TIME AND ANTICIPATE. HOW DO WE DO THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHICH IS TO AGGREGATE THINGS OVER TIME AND THEN WE DO CEOS AND LUMP THEM UP. THAT IS THE FIRST QUESTION. STUFF HAPPENS EVERY DAY OR JUST [00:05:10] NOT ANTICIPATED DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS AS SOON AS WE APPROVE A BUDGET, IT WILL COME EVERY MONTH, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. THE SECOND THING IS HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE ABILITY TO OPERATE UNDER THE CAP, THE DEBT ALWAYS SQUEEZES OPERATIONS FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS WAY IT'S A FEW DOLLARS THA WE HAVE TO FUND SHERIFF SALARIES , ET CETERA. AND THAT HAS TO COME FROM OPERATIONS. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. TEAM PLAYER, I AM ON BOARD FOR WHATEVER WE DO, FINDING A SOLUTION FOR PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A GOOD ANSWER. HELP ME OUT. >> OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE YEAR. THE TRUE ANSWER TO BOTH OF THOS QUESTIONS IS THAT OUR OUTSTANDING THAT HAS DOUBLED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO WE WENT FROM BELOW 750 MILLION OUTSTANDING TO 1.3 BILLION AND THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A STRATEGIC GOAL FOR ADDRESSING THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONTINU TO DOUBLE YOUR DEBT AND WHAT HA BEEN HAPPENING AS YOU HAVE BEEN MOVING TEXT FROM YOUR EMMA NO GREAT TO YOUR DEBT RATE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SHIFTING THINGS OVER BUT YOU ALL HOLD YOURSELVES TO CAP NOT THE REVENUE CAP. IS GOING TO KEEP YOUR OVERALL TAX RATE AND WHERE WERE YOU GOING TO DROP. YOU ALL ARE HOLDING YOURSELF BELOW THE CAB AND YOU HAVE CAPACITY AND I'M GOING TO SPECULATE HOW THIS YEAR IS GOIN TO WIND UP. BE HEARD JORDAN SPEAK ON TUESDA BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TALK WITH MY CONSERVATIVE HAT ON, THE APPROPRIATE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THESE MAJOR CAPITAL INITIATIVES IS TO FORCES TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FIT WITH LESS MATERIAL ITEMS IN THE BUDGET AND ALLOW US TO STILL OPERATE AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT FULFILLING YOUR PRIMARY GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS BUT ALSO GETTING OUR DEBT UNDER CONTROL. >> BEFORE I FORGET, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. SO WHEN THE ROOF IS LEAKING, FI THE ROOF. THE WAY WE DID CIP FOR ALL THES YEARS, OKAY IT WAS A BIT IRRESPONSIBLE. IT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE BECAUSE WE PUSHED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OUT AND OUT AND JUST DIDN'T DO IT AND THAT PUT US IN A LOT OF TROUBLE WITHOUT A COMPLEX ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM THAT BUDGET THAT WE KNEW THERE SO I WILL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE SO THE PART WHERE WE ACHIEVE SOME BENEFIT BY CONVERTING THOSE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES TO THAT WASN'T BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY GOT US TO A POINT WHERE WE GET A LO OF STUFF THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. WE CALLED UP ALL THAT STUFF, WE DID. WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. RATHER POINT SOMETIMES FOR WE D HAVE TO PROOFREAD THAT'S REALLY IRRESPONSIBLE KIND OF STUFF AND IT HAS LED TO HIGHER COSTS FOR THE SAME ITEM LATER ON IN YEARS. SAY WE TAKE IT AND NEVER GOT IT DONE IN A COST ESTIMATE THAT'S THE REALITY. I SAW US DO THAT. AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- WAIT A MINUTE. I'M HAVING A 67-YEAR-OLD MOMENT. ANYWAY, JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS UP NOT DOING STUFF YOU DIE KNOW WHAT WAS. HAD YOU NOT CONVERTED IT TO DEB AND ACTUALLY FUND AT THOSE PROJECTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE THOSE COSTS WOULD BE ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE IF THE CAP WENT THERE, OUR BUDGET WENT UP IN [00:10:01] HIGH. THAT IS REALITY SO I AM SAYING WE FLIP THAT TAX RATE AND CONVERTED THINGS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS, NOT -- BUT CAPITAL PROJECTS BUT BEFORE WE SWITCH AND I'VE GOT A SOLUTION THAT WE DO THIS AND HAVE THIS CAP FOR A MINIMUM. WE HAVE RESERVES TO TAP INTO, A RESERVE TO TAP INTO FOR THINGS THAT FALL UNDER THAT THAT IF WE CAN BUDGET CERTAIN ITEMS, LET'S DO THAT. BUT FOR THE UNEXPECTED ITEMS THAT ALWAYS CALM, ALWAYS COME, IF THE AIR-CONDITIONING AIR CONDITIONING IN THIS BUILDING THOSE OUT, WORK GOING TO ANTICIPATE THAT OF THE CURRENT BUDGET. WHAT ARE GOING TO DO. DO WE GO TO THE FUND BALANCE AN GET IT CORRECT. >> IT IS ALL ABOUT PRIORITIZATION, COMMISSIONER, AND THAT DECISION IS YOURS. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE UNEXPECTED. YOU CAN'T BUDGET FOR THE UNEXPECTED. >> AND MOVING SOME OF THESE LOWER COST OPERATING OR AS POTENTIAL, TO IMPROVE IT, IT DOES FORCE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT BIT MORE AGGRESSIVELY BECAUSE T STRETCH THE COST OVER 5, TELNET 15, 20 YEARS, IT IS EASIER TO WORK THAT INTO THE BUDGET. IF YOU ARE NOW GOING COME IF YO ALL AGREE WITH THIS AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS APPROACH, IT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO BE A LITTL BIT MORE CRITICAL ABOUT THE ITEMS BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT YOU OPERATING BUDGET CAN'T TAKE ON 100% ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FINANCED OVER 5-15-20 YEARS. THEY WILL HAVE NO PRIORITIZE THOSE AND DETERMINE DO WE NEED THIS NOW AND IF WE DO NEED THIS NOW, WHAT OTHER ITEM MIGHT NEED TO FALL OFF THIS YEAR OPERATING BUDGET. IT JUST REQUIRES YOU TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CRITICAL. >> I DON'T THINK THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN REAL. >> THAT IS NOT THE MATERIAL PAR OF WHAT HAS BEEN PUSHED OVER BU I KNOW DON'T NEED ME TO LISTEN SO I WON'T DO THAT. >> AND THOSE ARE NOT MATERIAL. AND SO WHAT WE ARE DOING -- THAT WAS THE FIRST ANNEX BETWEE 1996 AND 1998. ACROSS NINE OF 2,000. WHAT DID THE ADDICTS COST RIGHT NOW. 11 OKAY. OKAY. IT IS FALLING APART. IT IS FALLING APART. I GUARANTEE IT IS GOING TO BE SOME ITEMS IN THERE. WHAT DO I DO. >> THERE WILL BE ITEMS AND THAT DIVISION FOR $100,000. WHAT DO I DO. THAT PROJECT IS WHAT IS THE CRITERIA EVALUATION. SO HOPEFULLY YOU WOULDN'T PIECEMEAL WHATEVER RENOVATION EFFORT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THA WOULD BE DONE WORKING WITH FACILITIES AND FINALLY THE CONTRACTOR THAT WILL CHOOSE THE TRADES TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED AN VERY LIKELY THAT PROJECT WOULD COME ABOVE AND IT WOULD BE A LONG WHITE ASSET TO PUT INTO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THE THINGS THAT ARE LESS MATERIAL TO MOVE THAT MATERIALITY THRESHOLD UP. AND WE ARE SPENDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND PUTTING THEM INTO DEBT. WE WOULD EXPECT OUR CHALLENGE [00:15:09] THAT WAS FINANCED FOR 20 YEARS. YOU HAVE 133 MILLION AND YOU AR AT 700 THOSE CLOSER TO A BILLION . AND WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER $1.1 BILLION. I TAKE ISSUE A LITTLE BIT OF IT FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING OUR OPERATING EXPENSES AND DEBT PAI FOR DOING SO TO DELIVERY OF THE 2.5% CAP IN SOME INSTANCES, 2.5. >> 3-POINT FIVE. 2.5 IS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR WE MANAGED TO GET IT TO 3-POINT FIVE. ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WE ARE GOING TO FACE IS AN ATTEMPT TO CAP OUR DEPTH AND THE REASON THAT THEY'RE GIVING US THAT ASKED THE QUESTION IS, YOU GUYS ARE DRAMATICALLY INCREASING YOU DEBT. WE'VE INCREASED OUR DEBT BY 100 IN 5 YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY OTHER COUNTIES ARE INCREASING THERE THAT MAYBE NOT A SIMILAR RIGHT BUT BUT AT A RATE THAT IS HIGHER THAN PEOPLE AND ALSTON BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ACCUMULATING THAT KIND OF DEBT SO THAT THERE REACTION THAT IS IF YOU CAN'T MANAGE YOUR OWN DEBT, WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE IT FOR YOU. WE ARE GOING TO CAP YOU. AND I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE DECISION AND THAT IS REALITY I THINK I THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO DEMONSTRATE AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET CONTROL OF THE DEBT AND WE CAN GO TO AUSTIN SA HERE'S THE ACTION WE ARE TAKING TO MANAGE OUR DEBT AND CONTROL OUR DEBT AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING OUT THERE AND SAYING DON' DO THIS TO US AND SAYING, YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CONTROL YOUR OWN DEBT. THAT'S THE ARGUMENT. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I CONSIDERED WHAT THEY DID WITH THE REVENUE CAPABLE BIT MORE OF AN OVERREACTION AND I DON'T WAN TO PLAY A SIMILAR SITUATION. >> IN JUST A GENERAL PRINCIPLE SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES PUSH US TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE CRITICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE FINANCE VERSUS WHAT WE JUST PAY OUT RIGHT BECAUSE THERE INTEREST FEES ASSOCIATED WITH BORROWING AND ULTIMATELY WHAT I A $15,000 DEAL FOR A REPAIR, A LEAK THAT TURNS INTO SOMETHING MORE EXPENSIVE. WE'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIBLE WIT RETIRING DEBT EARLY SO WE DON'T WAIT 30 YEARS TO RETIRE OUR DEB AND SO WE ARE NOT PAYING THAT T THE TERM OF THAT BONDS THAT WE ISSUE. AND I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THERE ARE IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP THAT ARE LONG-TERM IT MIGHT BE A LONG-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, LIKE SOMETHING, I THINK ABOUT THE CLERESTORY AT THE UNIVERSITY BRANCH LIBRARY AND THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED BECAUSE IT IS LEAKING, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT MIGH FALL UNDER $100,000, BUT LIKE I SAY, MAYBE THAT COULD BE AGGREGATED WITH OTHER PROJECTS ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE THAT WOULD MEET THAT THRESHOLD INTO ME THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. WE MOST CERTAINLY SHOULD THINK LITTLE BIT MORE CRITICALLY. >> AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I'VE JUST SEEN IT HAPPEN TOO MANY TIMES WHERE WE PAINT OURSELVES INTO A CORNER AND CAN'T GET OUT OF IT. >> WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT INCREASING OUR CONTINGENCY THAN. >> I SEE A RESERVE FUND AND THA IS SOMETHING WE CAN TAP IF NECESSARY. OR WE JUST GO BACK TO WHAT WE'V BEEN DOING BEFORE ADVANCE [00:20:01] FUNDING AGREEMENT. WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THAT BECAUS WE BORROW FROM OURSELVES. >> SINCE YOU APPROVED THE COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM FOR MOBILITY, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO DIP INTO RESERVE AS WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT. THE CURRENT MOBILITY BOND FUND IS EXHAUSTING ITSELF USING COMMERCIAL PAPER WE DON'T HAVE TO DIP INTO THAT RESERVE AND TH PRESERVE IS MORE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S BEEN YOUR BIGGEST THING. AND REALLY OVERALL THE RATE BIG ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER AL OF THE DEMANDS OF OUR COMMUNITY PICKED IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH OUR DEBT HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE WAY MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN WE USED TO HAVEN'T WE. USED TO BE AND ASPHALT AND OPEN DITCH COUNTY AND MAINTAIN DITCHES. AND NOW WE ARE CONCRETE CURB AN GUTTER AND BUILDING AND SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS TO AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING FARM EQUIPMEN AROUND. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR COMMUNITY AND IT POPULATION HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY. >> SO, COMMISSIONER, SOMETIMES WE CREATE THIS FROM CONVENIENCE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND-PERIOD ANY FURTHER [3. Conduct Capital Improvement Project Workshops.] COMMENTS? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. >> LEFT GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBE. THIS YEAR WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND FOR THE CIP I HAVE CREATED A CA COMMITTEE. HELP -- HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, LAW-ENFORCEMENT, THIS WAS TO TR TO GET AROUND IT KINDA COMMITTE AND AREAS SO WE COULD THEN LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AND REVIEWED THEM AND GET ANY MORE INFORMATION IF WE NEEDED TO PUT OF THE BIGGEST RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO RANK THE PROJECTS AND THAT IS S WE CAN SEE WHICH ONES WE REALLY NEEDED TO TAP INTO FIRST AND MAYBE SOME THAT WE NEEDED TO DEFER UNTIL NEXT YEAR OR OTHER YEARS. >> I LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE AND THERE IS NO ELECTED ON HERE. THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST APARTMENT. >> WELL, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT OFTEN KIND OF A SUBMITTED IN TH PAST AND -- THAT I WAS TRYING TO GET A WELL-ROUNDED COMMITTEE'S BOOK -- THAT IS CODE LANGUAGE FOR HARDHEADED. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. OTHER THAN LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> THAT'S TRUE, THERE WAS AN ELECTIVE. >> THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS RANK-AND-FIL SO I AM SAYING JUST CONSIDER -- YES, SURE. >> WE HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. >> ALRIGHT. SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS, WE THOUGHT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BRING THEM AND WE PUT THEM IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FO THAT RANKING AND THE WAIT OFF THOSE, WE HAVE JUSTICE AND SAFETY, WE HAVE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE. [00:25:04] IS THERE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO D THAT IS REGULATORY PETE BUTTIGIEG STORAGE SHED. ARE WE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY THAT WE ARE GIVEN INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY 16%. AND THE PROJECT READINESS IS 10% . WE FOUND THAT AND SOME OF THEM IN THE PAST BEFORE NOT ABLE TO GET THEM STARTED RIGHT AWAY. SO WE FIGURED THAT HAPPENED THA AS A CRITERIA, RANKING CRITERIA WAS IMPORTANT SOFT WASN'T READY WE COULD DEFER IT. SO ARE THERE -- WE GOT TOGETHER COUPLE OF WEEKS SCOUT AND WHAT YOU HAVE FUN YOUR -WAS NOT IN RANKED ORDER. IT IS JUST IN ORDER BY COUNTY UNIT AND THE REASON I GAVE IT T YOU THAT WAY WAS BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN -- THAT TOO, BUT MOSTLY SO THAT WE CAN GROUP TOGETHER ALL THE IT PROJECTS IN ALL THE FACILITIES PROJECT SO PEOPLE WERE HAVING T COME UP AND DOWN MULTIPLE TIMES SO BUT WE WILL DO IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FURTHER QUESTIONS , WE CAN START LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER ON YOUR-THAT WAS GIVEN. THAT IS JUST THE COMMITTEE'S FIRST REVIEW AFTER THIS MEETING WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEETING TO REFUTE THOSE PROJECT AGAIN AFTER THIS MEETING TO KIN OF GET BACK TOGETHER WITH NEW INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THOSE ACCOUNT AND REPORT THOSE BACK TO YOU. >> IF WE COULD BEFORE YOU GET STARTED ON THIS, GIVE US A RUNDOWN OF OUR PROFILE, YOU GAV PART OF IT BUT ALSO IF YOU COUL INCLUDE WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY TO DATE. >> YOUR CAPACITY IS SELF MANAGE BECAUSE YOU COULD ACTUALLY RAIS THE TAX RATE BECAUSE ON THE DEB SIDE OF THE LEDGER, YOU HAVE ON SOME OF THE DEBT YOU HAVE A HIGHER LIMITATION BUT ON THE UNLIMITED ROAD TAX, YOU COULD DOUBLE YOUR -- >> WITHOUT RAISING OUR TAX RATE. >> WITHOUT RAISING YOUR TAX RATE , YOUR CAPACITY IS CURRENTLY WHERE IT IS WITH THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE AV GROWTH, BECAUSE IF YO LEAVE THE TAX RATE WHERE IT IS AND YOU DON'T DIVIDE UP BETWEEN N AND O TOSHIBA ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE LESS DEBT IF YOU LEFT YOUR TAX RATE, -- >> CURRENTLY 11 CENTS. SO YOU WOULD GO DOWN FROM 140, 150 MILLION DEBT SERVICE, ANNUA DEBT SERVICE TO SOMETHING JUST BELOW THAT. BY 1%, ASSUMING THAT IS WHERE W LAND PEER-TO-PEER LAND ABOVE THAT, THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO INCUR A LITTLE BIT MORE DEBT SERVICE, WHICH WE COULD HELP YO DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS IN TOTAL PROJECT, SPREAD OUT OVER 20 BUT AGAIN, YOU ALL SELF CONSTRAIN YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE TO INCREASE TH OVERALL TAX RATE AND YOU'VE ENJOYED GROWTH THAT HAS ALLOWED YOU TO DIVERT FUNDS FOR THAT, DIVERT FUNDS FOR LIABILITY AND GIVES SOME TAX RATE BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS IN RECENT YEARS. LAST YEAR IT WAS FLAT BUT YEARS BEFORE THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE COME DOWN FROM WHEN I GOT HERE, YOU'RE AT 66 CENTS TOTAL TAX RATE. >> WHERE WE NOW? >> 42-POINT TO. >> IT'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE YOU NOT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE FORCED TO MAKE A HARD DECISION TO CAUSE THAT T TO QUÉBEC AND THE OTHER DIRECTION SO, AGAIN, THE CAPACITY YOU HAVE HEARD DEBT IS SELF CONSTRAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO INCREASE YOUR OVERALL TAX RATE. IF YOU CHANGE THAT MINDSET, THE YOU COULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT YOU HAD YOUR EYE NOTE THAT IS NOT THE ROLL OF THIS COURT, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE CAPACIT BECAUSE THE TOTAL TAX RATE OF THE LOOK COUNTY IS 80 CENTS. [00:30:02] WOULD YOU DO THAT? IF YOU DID THAT, YOU WOULDN'T B SITTING HERE ONLY LONGER AND WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT. SO THE FISCAL TEAM TRIES TO HEL YOU WITH MAKING THOSE HARD DECISIONS TO STAY WITHIN THAT SELF-IMPOSED CAB. YOU MIGHT CHANGE SIDES BETWEEN DEBT PAID. >> THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS THE THAT SURFACE TAX RATE HAS INCREASED, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE, WE HAVE DONE TAKE THAT TA FROM THE M&O. >> AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOWED SEVEN THE WORKSHEET ON MONDAY. >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY MOVING AT FROM THE DRAINAGE M&O TO THE DRAINAGE DEBT BUT FOR FORT WORT COUNTY I KEPT THE DEBT SERVICE, THE COUNTY DEBT AT 11 CENTS. >> SO RUN THOSE NUMBERS TO ME AGAIN. CURRENTLY ISSUED. >> YOUR CURRENT OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL IS 1.3 BILLION BUT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL 21 , THAT IS, IN EFFECT, A DOUBLING UP YOUR OUTSTANDING THOUGH SO I 100% INCREASE OVER THAT. BACK OF TIME WITH THE CURRENT DEBT SERVICES IN THE 150, DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. >> IT IS 154. >> 154 MILLION CURRENTLY BAB HAVE IN FISCAL 26 AND THAT IS ROUGHLY, IF YOU COMPARE THAT, THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF YOUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR GENERAL FUND. IF YOU INCLUDED ALL OF THE FUND THAT ARE BUDGETED, 750 PLUS MILLION, I THINK IT WOULD LOWER THAT PERCENTAGE. IF THAT IS RELATIVE, THAT INFORMATION CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE. I MENTIONED THOSE ASPECTS AND STATISTICS BECAUSE YOU MAY DECIDE IN ORDER TO GET A BATTLE HANDLED TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE TAXPAYERS YOURSELF CONTROLLING HOW YOUR DEBT IS PROCEEDING, THAT YOU COULD SET THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE CAN HELP YOU STAY WITHIN OR ALERT YOU THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO CAUSE YOU TO BUMP UP AGAINST THAT LEVEL THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO STAY WITHIN VERY SIMILAR TO OUR FUND BALANCE OF THE YEAR PAID WE HAVE A 30% FUN BALANCE:WE HAVE DIPPED INTO THA IN THE PAST BUT YOU HAVE COME AROUND AND SAID, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THI NEXT YEAR, SO SO WE ARE GOING T DIP INTO THAT CURRENTLY AND JUS BASICALLY JUST SELF POLICING YOURSELF WITH A STRATEGIC GOAL, WHICH WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR DEBT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT PAMELA' OFFICE IS CHAMPIONING FOR THE COURT AT THIS TIME. THAT WON'T BE IN TIME FOR THIS BUDGET PROCESS SO WERE ASKING YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU WOULD SELF-IMPOSED AS A LIMIT, CONSTRAINT BIG B CAN HELP YOU WITH OPTIONS AND MAYBE THIS IS WORKSHOP DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DOUBLE OUR OUTSTANDING EVERY FIVE YEARS. THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT. >> INTO YOUR POINT, NO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE BROUGH THIS UP A COUPLE OF TIMES THE SAME LOOP DID REPORT FOR CONTINGENCY WHENEVER THERE IS A ITEM THAT -- IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE SIMILAR SORT OF REPORT WILL REFINANCING THINGS, CONSIDERING THE FINANCE TO SEE WHERE WE STA AND WITH REGARD TO OUR CURRENT CAPACITY WITH OUR CURRENT TAX RATE OR WHAT MIGHT BE THE IMPAC OF THAT SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. >> THAT IS EASY, ESPECIALLY AS YOU SAID, WE CAN USE YOUR SELF IMPOSED CAP IS YOUR CURRENT ORA RATE AS THE BASIS FOR WHAT YOU WILL NOT BE DOING IN FISCAL YEARS. SO WE CAN LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS PRESSING UPON THAT. YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPECULATION ON THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEARS. >> A REMINDER THAT THERE ARE TW PIECES OF LEGISLATION LAST YEAR. THAT ADDRESSED CAPPING THAT. [00:35:02] ONE OF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE CALCULATED THAT HAD THE BILL PASSED AND ENTER FORM WAS INTRODUCED, IT WOULD'VE KEPT TH DEBT AT $1.1 BILLION AND WE ARE 1.3 TODAY. HOWEVER THERE IS ANOTHER BILL THAT HAD IT PASSED, 550 MEN DOLLARS. SO THAT IS THE REALITY I BELIEV WE ARE FACING AND I THINK THE MORE PRUDENT WE DEMONSTRATE RECORDING TO BE, THE BETTER CAS WE CAN MAKE THAT THE LOOK GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS ARE NOT THE STATE. >> IF THE STATE SENT MORE MONEY HERE IN THE FORM OF MORE FUNDED PROJECTS OR PARTNERSHIPS WITH U ON ANY OF THE UNFUNDED MANDATES WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS ISSUE TODAY. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET THAT GOES TO MANDATE. I THINK YOU TRY TO ROUGH ESTIMATE AS NOT QUITE 50%. I THINK WE LANDED AT ABOUT 48% IN THE LAST TIME I DID THE CALCULATION PUTS IN 2023, I'M WORKING ON REFRESHING THAT. >> GOOD IT'S SIGNIFICANT. >> TO UNFUNDED MANDATES. >> THEY ARE RUNNING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT LET THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS RUN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. YOU GUYS RUN THE STATE. >> ALRIGHT. THE STATE WILL DO WHAT THE STAT WILL DO. >> WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? >> THE ISSUE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED AS A COURT TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS. >> SURE. NO QUESTION. >> LET'S CONTINUE. >> BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS, TWO OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HERE TODAY HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SKIP TO NUMBER 27 FOR TEXAS AGRO LIFE AND LET AMY GO FIRST AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL SKIP TO NUMBER 23. AND THEN WE CAN START BACK AT NUMBER 1. >> I APPRECIATE YOU ADJUSTING THE SCHEDULE. I'M ON MY WAY TO A LEADERSHIP FORM AND YESTERDAY WAS ABLE TO GO BACK TO FORT BEND, STRATEGIC BLUEPRINT MEETING FOR THEY RELEASED THAT AND INTERESTINGLY THEY TALK ABOUT THE AGRICULTURE SECTOR IN THERE AND BY THE WAY, COUNTY EXTENSION DIRECTOR, SHE IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER BUT IN THE REPORT FOR 2050 IT TALKS ABOUT THE FUTURE SHOULD NOT BE FRAMED AS A CHOICE BETWEEN SUBURBAN GROWTH AND AGRICULTURE. THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT AGRICULTURE IS ONE OF THE SECTORS THAT HELP SHAPE FORT BEND'S LANDSCAPE AND IDENTITY AND STILL PLAYS A PRACTICAL ROL IN EMPLOYMENT, LAND STEWARDSHIP FOOD SYSTEMS AND SENSITIVE OPEN SPACE, PRESERVING THAT ROLE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NOSTALGIC IT IS RESILIENCE AND DIVERSIFICATION STRATEGIES. >> AS YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICE 140 TO BEN ROAD, WE'VE BEEN SHERRY AT AND THEY HAVE BUILT THEIR OW SPACE AND MOVED OUT SO OUR CAPITAL PROPOSAL IS TO BRING THAT SPACE UP TO DATE AND USABL SO BASICALLY WE'VE FOR BOTH FACILITIES AND WITH IT REQUEST TO INCLUDE IT DROPS AN UPDATED FLOORING, PAINT ON THE BALLS, REALLY BASIC THINGS TO MAKE THA SPACE USEFUL. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I AM JUST LOOKING AT THIS. WHAT ABOUT THE SHOOTING RANGE. >> DOES THAT NOT MAKE THE LIST. >> CURRENTLY, NO. THE SHOOTING RANGE IS STILL, IT IS UNDER CONTROL AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO USE IT AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT IT NEEDS ANY CURRENT CONSTRUCTION THEY DID SOME UPGRADES TO IMPROVE AN THAT EXPOSURE AND OTHER THAN THAT THERE'D BEEN. >> I THINK SOME SECURITY UPGRADES. AND THEN THEY STRUGGLED TO GET [00:40:04] FUNDED. CAN YOU JUST LIKE THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN FUND THAT RIGHT NOW. DID WE DO SOME UPGRADES INTO TH HVAC. >> NO, IN 2019. THE SHOOTING RANGE DOES NOT HAV PROPER VENTILATION AND IT IS NO ON THIS LIST OF NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. PLEASE ADD THAT TO THE LIST THIRD AND STEEP WE CAN JUST GET A COST ON IT. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT RANKED. >> FURTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, ANYONE. THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING. APPRECIATE THAT. >> WE BOUGHT MOVED TO NUMBER 23 FOR ENGINEERING REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. IN THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT WE GET OU BRIDGES INSPECTED EVERY TWO YEARS. IT IS WORTH DISCUSSING. AND THE INTERIM PREVENTS US FRO HAVING THE AGRO LIFE HOURS IN THE NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART GUN RANGE THAT WE JUST BUILT? >> THE SUPERVISION AND SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES. THE VERY SECURE FACILITY. THEY JUST CAN'T START COMING UP AND SHOOTING AND THERE. AND THERE IS A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR. AND YOU BRING OUT GREAT -- WHY CAN'T THAT BE EXPLORED AS A OPTION. WE JUST BUILT A TAJ MAHAL OF AL GUN RANGES OVER THERE. >> LAW ENFORCEMENT, OFFICIAL LA ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE TO QUALIFY AND TRAIN, NOT FOR CHILDREN TO SHOOT BB GUNS. THOSE ARE REAL GUNS THEY ARE SHOOTING. THAT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT AND I THINK IF IT'S SOMEONE FROM THE ACADEMY SAYING HOLD UP, WE DON'T HAVE CHILDREN AROUND HERE, WE HAVE FACILITY THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED THAT IS SUITED FOR -- THEY DON'T NEED A 100-YARD SHOOTING RANGE. BUT THEY HAVE IS FINE. JUST LIKE THAT NEW FACILITY HAS EFFECTUATED THERE. AND DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS THEY JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE. I THINK THAT IS THE LOGISTICS ISSUE. ALL I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW ON THE PROJECT. [00:45:06] WHEN IT WAS A SHOOTING RANGE, I WAS PATCHED TOGETHER. IT WAS KIND OF PATCHED TOGETHER AND IT WAS FINE AT THE TIME. NOW WE KNOW BETTER AND IT IS MADE SAFER. WE KNOW THAT NOW. NOW IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT. WE'VE ALREADY LIMITED OURSELVES TO DO THINGS THAT ARE BUDGETED. >> HAVE YOU DONE AN ESTIMATE ON ANY OF THIS. NO, OKAY. >> THERE WAS A TASK AND IT WAS WITHIN ACCEPTABLE LEVELS THAT W NEED TO CONTINUE DILIGENT CLEANING, PRACTICES. WE HAD THE SHOOTING RANGE, RIGH THERE. THAT'S AS CLOSE AS I AM TO YOU. >> WHEN IT WAS PURPOSELY DEVELOPED, JASPER AND THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SO UPGRADIN IS IMPORTANT TO THE POINT OF TH LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FACILITY, A BIG PART OF OUR FORAGE PROGRAM IS ALSO CAREER READINESS AND SO WITHIN A CERTAIN AGE AND ABILITY, I THINK BEING ABLE TO USE TO INTERACT WITH LAW-ENFORCEMENT, COULD BE THE WORKFORCE PREPARATION EXPERIENCE FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IS WELL. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO ME. >> I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND BUT SURELY THERE ARE HOURS WHERE HE LAW-ENFORCEMENT WILL BE USING THAT FACILITY TO QUALIFY FOR I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE ALREAD SPENT SO CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A FAVOR AND JUST EXPLORE IT? WHAT MIGHT IT TAKE IF WE WANTED TO PURSUE THAT OPTION BUT ALSO PURSUING WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OF UPGRADING THE HVAC SYSTEM AT THE EXISTING FACILITY AND THEN LET'S MAKE A DECISION LATER ABOUT WHICH ONE IS MORE PRUDENT FOR US GIVEN OUR CURRENT RESOURCES APPEARS. >> UP WHEN YOU DO THIS EVALUATION, BECAUSE THE LIABILITY OF HAVING CHILDREN IN THAT FACILITY WITH RIFLES SHOOTING IS OFF THE CHART. I'M JUST GOING TO CONCLUDE THIS. >> ALSO TWO THAT POINT, THE KID THAT SHOOT, THEY'RE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF RANGE CERTIFIED SHOOTING SPORT COACHES REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR SHOOTING RANGE OR WHETHER IT IS OUTDOOR PROJECTS THAT THEY DO OR IF THE RENT ANOTHER FACILITY. SO THEIR VARIABLES SUPERVISE. >> I'VE MADE MY POINT SO I WILL. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE OLDER KIDS. AND THEN HAVE HIM DO HIS DUE DILIGENCE. >> THE FIRST DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW FACILITY IS TO INVOLVE [INDISCERNIBLE] RIGHT AWAY. SPECTRUM LAW-ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FACILITY. >> WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A BAD MOVE. WE CAN'T -- OR IF IT CAN WORK. I'VE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, RICK. ALRIGHT LET'S PROCEED. >> WE GET OUR BRIDGES INSPECTED EVERY TWO YEARS AND FROM THAT INSPECTION THEY GIVE US A LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND MOST OF THE TIME THOSE ARE SMALL TICKET ITEMS, ASSIGNMENT WAS KNOCKED DOWN, MARKERS, THINGS LIKE THAT UNFORTUNATELY THIS CYCLE, WE HAVE RECEIVED 22 BRIDGES THAT HAVE CRITICAL FINDINGS. SOME OF THOSE THAT ACTUALLY ORDERED CLOSE. HUNT ROSE WAS ORDERED CLOSED AN WERE WORKING ON A WAY TO THEM DOES HAVE TO ALLOW US TO REOPEN THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. OF THOSE 22, 14 OR ON A BRIDGE [00:50:06] REPLACEMENT PROGRAM ALREADY SO WE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE IN THE BRIDGES SHOULD GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN 2026 AND 2028. WE HAVE SEVEN BRIDGES -- ONE BRIDGE AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REBUILD AN IT WAS A ROAD THAT DIDN'T HAVE LOT OF TRAFFIC THEY WENT BACK AND PUT IN A WOODEN BRIDGE. OF WE'VE GOT MORE CRITICAL ROADWAYS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABL UPGRADE TO CONCRETE BRIDGES AND CULVERTS OR WOODEN BRIDGES BECAUSE THERE IS MORE GROWTH COMING IN THOSE AREAS. AND SO WE WERE ASKING FOR FOR THE FIRST YEARS GIVE US SOME MONEY THAT WE CAN START DOING DEVALUATIONS AND START DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO AT LEAST KEEP THOSE BRIDGES OPERATIONAL UNTIL WE GET THEM ONTO A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. SOME OF THESE BREACHES HAVE LOADS UP TO 5,000 POUNDS AND THAT IS BARELY A PASSENGER BY THE. WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE SCHOOL BUSES DRIVING ACROSS THEM SO WE NEED TO DO THINGS COVER REPLACING PILINGS UNDERNEATH AN SOME OF IT IS DRESSING EROSION UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE WE NEED T TAKE CARE OF THAT AND TO PREVEN THE RIDGES FROM BEING UNDERMINE IN THE FUTURE SO THAT IS WHAT THIS IS, MANDELA'S FIRST YEAR T START THOSE VALUATIONS WITH SOM MINOR ENGINEERING FOR THE OUT YEARS, THE $10 MILLION, WHETHER THAT GOES INTO CAP OR THE BOND PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE AT DECISION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO MAKE AT THAT TIME SO WHAT WERE REALLY TRYING TO DO I GET STARTED AND EVALUATE HOW MUCH IS THE TRUE COST GOING FORWARD. >> HE'S OLDER. HE CAN GO FIRST. >> ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE REQUESTING FUNDING FOR -- MAY BE SOME MINOR WORK IF WE CA GET IT IN. IF ROAD AND BRIDGE CAN GO IN AN REPLACE PILINGS OR DO SOME RIPRAP WORK UNDERNEATH, THEY CA GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP IT WITHIN A DECENT BUDGET PAID ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE EXTENSIVE OR REPLACING THAT DECKING, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DELAYED AND FACTORED INTO A FUTURE PROJECT. >> IS A RELATIVE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO BRIDGES THAT ARE STANDARD. >> CORRECT. >> THIS IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADDRESS. >> MY CONCERN IS THE ONES THAT ARE DOWN TO 5,000 POUNDS. FILLER -- WE CAN DO SOMETHING MINOR TO CORRECT THOSE. ANYTHING 5,000 POUNDS, SOMEBODY DRIVING FROM ACROSS THAT COME IT'S GOING TO COLLAPSE, MAYBE NOT COLLAPSE BUT FRACTURE IN SOME WAY. AND SOME OF THESE ARE THE ONLY WAY AND TWO ARE THE ONLY ROUTE INTO THE AREA. A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE THEORY POURED DETOUR ROUTES WHERE YOU WOULD BE GOING FIVE DAYS 10 MILES OUT OF YOUR WAY IN ORDER TO GO AROUND THOSE AREAS. >> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE NEW FLOODPLAIN MAPS IF WE JUST HAVE A BRIDGE WERE GOING TO DO MINOR REPLACEMENT OR MAY BE PILINGS HERE AND THERE, LOOK AT THAT OVERALL VIABILITY OF A BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO THE NEW MAPS AN LOST IN A MAJOR EVENT. >> MOST THE TIME YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THE BRIDGE. WE HAVE CULVERTS STILL. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THE ROADWAY IS GOING TO BE UNDERWATER ANYWAY SO IF YOU'VE GOT A BRIDGE AND YOU'VE GOT 2 MILES OF ROAD PLAN EITHER SIDE THAT BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDERWATER DURING A 100 YEAR EVENT, IT DOESN'T PAY TO RAISE THE BRIDGE PAGE YOU HAVE TO RAISE THE ENTIRE ROADWAY AND THAT IS WHEN YOU GET INTO PROBLEMS WITH COST AND HOW YOU DO THAT AND THAT CREATED THEM THAT CREATES MORE FLOODING UPSTREAM SO IF WE'VE GOT A BRIDGE THAT HAS A VERY MINOR FLOODPLAIN, WE MIGHT RAISE THAT ONE BUT IF IT'S A MAJOR FLOOD PLAY ISSUE, WE CANNOT RAISE THA OUT OF THE WATER. >> I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BRIDGE INSPECTION. I KNOW THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED. I REMEMBER WHEN THOSE BRIDGES [00:55:04] WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT. DID THEY EVEN CONSIDER THOSE ISSUES AS A DEFICIENCY. >> THEY REALLY DON'T. THERE LOOKING UP THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES OF THE BRIDGE AND MULTIPLE THEM AROUND SNAKE CREEK, TURKEY CREEK COUPLEGCWA CANALS. NOTHING ON BIG CREEK THAT MADE THE LIST AT THIS TIME. >> THE ROAD BRIDGE AND DRAINAGE ALREADY REPLACE THE PUT IN BRIDGE. >> TOO LATE. I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD PROPERLY ENGINEER ALL THOSE THINGS THAT THAT THE ROAD BRIDG AND DRAINAGE IGNORE ENGINE PRINCIPLES BUT I'VE I RAN A ROA BRIDGE OPERATION BEFORE WE CONSOLIDATED AND I WOULDN'T DRIVE OVER THOSE BRIDGES RIGHT NOW. AS THE ENGINEER, LOOK AT THAT. IF WERE GOING TO REPLACE THE WOODEN BRIDGE BUT THE PUT IN BRIDGE IN 2026, IS THAT RESPONSIBLE. >> WE LOOK AT BOTH THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON THE SIZE OF ON THAT ROADWAY. IF IT WAS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE WOULD BE NOT BE COMING BACK WIT A WOODEN BRIDGE. >> SOMETHING YOU CAN BUY OUT OF A CATALOG AND TRYING TO BUILD A TIMBER BRIDGE. >> FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THOSE ARE STILL OVER A HALF-MILLION DOLLARS. BY THE TIME YOU DO EVERYTHING -- [INDISCERNIBLE] >> CORRECT. >> I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE JUST TEMPORARY TO JUST FIX THIS. >> BUT WE ARE TALKING RIGHT HER IS FIXING THE PIERS UNDERNEATH AND PROTECTING THE ABUTMENTS FROM EROSION. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT GOING 5 MILES OUT OF YOUR WAY. LET'S THINK ABOUT FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE IF THEY HAVE TO GO 5 MILES OUT OF THEIR WAY. WE'VE HAD -- AND IT IS FINALLY READY TO BE OPEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT F WANTE TO USE THAT ROAD ARE HAPPY. WE GOT UP TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE O THE ROAD THAT PREFER IT STAY CLOSED BUT IT IS, THAT IS A MAJOR ROADWAY FOR TRAFFIC INTERNET AROUND THE COUNTY. >> QUESTION, COMMENT. >> JUST FOR INFORMATION ENGINEERING STUDIES WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR CERTIFICATES OF AUTHORIZATION SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT IN OPERATING COVER THAT FIRST. OF EFFECT, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, THAT WOULD BE CAB. >> SOME OF IT WOULD BE EVALUATION AND ROUGH DESIGN AND THERE WOULD BE SOME CONSTRUCTIO DOLLARS AND IT REPLACING THE PIE PIERS. >> AND THEY JUST LEFT THAT OUT. >> CORRECT. >> WITHOUT FURTHER ADO WE WOULD GO BACK TO NUMBER 1. >> THANK YOU. EXPECTS THE FIRST ONE IS FOR TH VEHICLE MAINTENANCE UPDATING. SHOP. >> GOOD MORNING. THIS INITIAL PROJECT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR THE UP FITTING SHOP ITSELF AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND WERE GOING TO GET AN APPROVAL FOR DESIGN ON THE NEW BUILDING AND HOPEFULLY START WORKING ON IT PRETTY QUICK PICKED UP DIDN'T CONSIDER LAST YEAR WAS THIS IS $752,000 SO I KNOW IT DID QUALIFY SO TO PROVIDE A SECURIT AROUND THAT IT IS JUST A BUNCH OF THREES DOWN THERE AND PEOPLE CAN COME AND GO BACK THERE SO W WOULD WANT TO DO FENCING, WHICH WAS 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND. AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE THE SHELVING TO SCORE -- STORE ALL THE EQUIPMENT PARENT' SO THE FENCING, 30,000 WAS GOIN TO BE FOR THE SHELVING AND THEN THE REMAINDER IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE FENCING OF SECURITY. SO WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO IT. AND IT DIDN'T QUALIFY SO TO KNO IF WE CAN JUST PUT THAT IN THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE BUDGET WITHOUT THE EXISTING REQUEST. THAT IS ALL THAT IS. >> JUST TO ENSURE BECAUSE WE [01:00:06] HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE THERMA A WHILE. BEAR STILL -- PART OF THIS IS EXPANDING THE SPACE TO PARK VEHICLES OUT THERE , THE DOG TRAINING AREA WERE USED TO BEFORE THE SHERIFF 'S OFFICE. WERE GOING TO KEEP THE LINE OF THREES ALONG THAT ROADWAY. >> HAS HER MATTER-OF-FACT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE STUDY WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND IN ORDER T DO THAT TREE REMOVAL. IT IS A LOT MORE THAN WE EXPECTED WE ARE HOPING TO CURE THAT AREA WERE ALL THE CONTAINERS, REMOVE ALL THOSE AN STORE ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE SECURED BUILDING. >> THE CITY OF RICHMOND HAS A TREE HERITAGE PROGRAM. >> I DID NOT KNOW THAT. >> IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE. YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY. >> DID YOU WANT TO DO THE OTHER ROAD AND BRIDGE ITEMS WHILE HE IS HERE. >> HE CAN. I DON'T KNOW WHICH BRIDGE? >> GRADY. I DON'T KNOW. MY STEP IS ORGANIZED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. MY TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROJECT NUMBE THEY ARE THAT'S TRAFFIC SIGNALS SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. THROUGH IT ALL. >> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. >> WHICH ONE DO WE HAVE NEXT. >> PROCESSING YOUR STORAGE FACILITY. THE AREA WERE OFF OF HIGHWAY 90 AND 36, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, SO I REQUESTED IF WE COULD UTILIZE THIS FOR THE BREAKFAST VEHICLES CONFISCATED VEHICLES THAT HAD BEEN SEIZED AND ALSO A LOT OF THE WRECKED VEHICLES WHERE THER WAS OF TALENT HE. THE SHARES DEPARTMENT HAS TO STORE THAT THE SUMMER UNTIL THE CASE IS SOLVED, INTEL THEY GO THROUGH WITH THEIR INVESTIGATION . SO ANYWAY, WHATEVER IS HOPING T DO WAS TO UTILIZE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WHEN I STARTED TALKING TO EVERYBODY ELSE TWO WHAT I SAY EVERYBODY ELSE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, IT IS LIKE, FINE, WE CAN DO THAT BUT NOW ON THE SEIZURE VEHICLES THEY HAVE TO B UNDER SECURITY FENCING, WHICH W JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FENCING IN THERE, 24 HOUR SURVEILLANCE. SO WITH THIS BEING SAID, DOESN' HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT EITHER. SO WE CAN BRING THIS TOGETHER T TRY TO MAKE THIS A NICE FACILIT SO THAT WE WILL HAVE ALL THE VEHICLES STORED THERE AND THAT WILL BE THE STORAGE UNIT. ANY SHARES DEPARTMENT VEHICLE THAT IS WRECKED, THERE IS A BUILDING ON THERE SO IF IT'S WRECKED AND IT'S A VEHICLE WHIC IS PARKED INSIDE THE BUILDING T PROTECT ALL THE CONTENTS INSIDE THE VEHICLE. IF IT IS TO BE REPAIRED, WE CAN BRING THAT MATERIAL OUT OF THERE . BUT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS IS A FENCING. THAT'S ON ONE PARTICULARLY PROTECTED SIDE AND THAT'S WHAT THE FUNDING IS FOR. NINE OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAD THE FUNDING THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING ME AT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THAT HAS T BE UNDER SECURE AREAS. A LOT OF THE VEHICLES IN THE PAST, I'VE GOT 2-3 I HAD A COUPLE FOR A WHILE. SO THAT THEY ARE UNDER SECURITY CAMERAS. >> THAT IS TECHNICALLY EVIDENCE. >> I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS ARE NOT . OUT TELL YOU WHAT, WHEN WE FIRS ARE THE WORKING OVER THERE -- I KNOW THAT RIGHT WHEN WE STARTED, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE T HAVE SECURITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. >> WHY GO PASS THE ORDINANCE. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING O IT, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH HAS MET THAT WE ENDED UP GETTING TH [01:05:01] CITY OF ROSEMONT INVOLVED. IN FIRST DURING SEIZED VEHICLES MAYBE WE COULD USE A MORE FITTE ASSET. IS THERE MONEY IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET TO COVER THAT. BY MY ESTIMATION, THERE IS. >> GOOD IDEA. IS GOING TO WORK OUT FOR US GREAT. APPRECIATED. NUMBER 29 IS THE ARCOLA FACILITY . BUT WE ARE REQUESTING, THE FACILITY, ONE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS IN HERE PREVIOUSLY AND WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS MAKE SOME MINOR UPGRADES TO THAT FACILITY OVER THERE AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE THIS A FACILITY WHERE WE COULD HAVE AN OFF-SITE WORK. YEAR SO FAR THAT -- IN ORDER TO RUN EQUIPMENT OVER THERE SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO DO IS UTILIZE THIS FACILITY NEX DOOR. THE STUFF YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND HERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENT TO THE BUILDING SO FENCING AND SOME CONCRETE REPAIRS TO THE STUFF THAT IS OVER THERE AND POSSIBLY A SMALL CANOPY IN THE BACK TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING IN THE BACK DOOR. >> IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE FRONT AND ANIMAL CONTROL HA SOME SHELTERS IN THE FRONT. YEARS AND YEARS AGO THEY CHANGE THE NAME FROM ARCOLA TO FRESNO. >> IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR. IT SPEAKS OF THE PARKING LOT, DIDN'T, JV. I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THI WAS. THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL DEAL IN ITS ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE HAVE LIMITED MONEY TO WORK WITH. >> QUESTIONS. >> NUMBER 30 IS THE ROAD CREATING PROJECT, WHICH I WANTE TO CHANGE THE NAME GRADING. WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IN 2022, WE DID A ROAD EVALUATION OF PRO GRADING SYSTEM WHAT I SA GRADING, 1-5 IS THE RATING IF I IS SOMETHING. AND IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTIVELY GOING EVERY FIVE BIT IS TO EVALUATE THE PROS AND REGRADE THE ROADS. AT IT WOULD COME BACK AND EVALUATE ALL THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY. IT WOULD GIVE US A NEW EXISTING ROADWAY THAT WE HAVE AND THE HIGHER NUMBER ON THE ROADS THAT WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO. WE GOT THIS ESTIMATE FROM AN EXISTING FIRM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER MEIER SON SO IT WAS JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON IT. IT WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED. IS THIS POSSIBLE FOR THE MOBILITY PROGRAMS THAT WE DO YO HAVE. THE CURRENT ABILITY BOND, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. IT IS -- I WILL DEFER TO ADD. >> IT IS AN ALLOWABLE USE. YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BUDGET TRIM TO EACH OF YOUR PROJECTS TO FUND THAT. >> IT HELPS IDENTIFY OUR PRIOR -- ALL PRIORITIZE. YOUR MORE CRITICAL ROADS. SOME OF US HAVE CHANGED OUR AREA . AND SUMMER WORKING OUT TO TAKE THAT DATA THAT THEY HAVE COLLECTED PREVIOUSLY. WE GET ANOTHER FORM THAT IS USABLE. AND WHAT OF THE THINGS WE HAVE ADVOCATED IS TO THE EXTENT THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. [01:10:02] SELF THAT IS CURRENTLY WHERE I AM FUNDING IT. SO IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. >> THIS WOULD BE MORE DETAILED STATE BITTERLY FIRST DID THIS, IT WAS ALL PART OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM IN THE COMPANY THAT WAS HOW DEMENTED DO THE STUDY, THAT STUDY WAS ACTUALLY 600,000 FOR THE ROADWAYS. OKAY. ANYMORE QUESTIONS CORRECT. >> ALRIGHT. NOW WE WILL GO BACK. FACILITIES. >> OH, WAIT. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE. >> TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVING. AND THIS YEAR WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IMPROVEMENTS IN PUBLIC YET 50,000 AND THAT WOULD FUND THIS YEAR AND IT COVERED ALL FIVE YEARS SO I HAD BECOME A CARD AN ASK FOR THE MONEY FOR 2026 IS NOT ASKING FOR THE MONEY FOR 2027. >> WE DIDN'T DO IT IN 26 BUT I HAD TO COME TO AND DO IT MIDYEAR . WOULD YOU CHECK WITH DUANE IN M OFFICE BECAUSE SOME MAY BE ADDRESSED IN THE STUDY. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHATEVER YOU FEEL COULD BE IN THAT. IN THE COUNTY ASSISTANT DISTRIC FUNDS FOR THAT. >> JUST DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER THAT. >> AS WE ARE UPGRADING THESE SYSTEMS. AND THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE. AND THEY'RE ALSO TAKING CARE OF ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND A LOT OF THE SIGNALS WERE OUTDATED . AND WE ARE MORE EFFICIENTLY ABL TO MOVE TRAFFIC WERE VEHICLES ARE CONCERNED. AND SOME UPGRADES FOR THEIR SYSTEMS USING I THINK WAYS THAT ALL THAT FOR FURTHER ROUTING OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES. IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN HIGHWAY SIX, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING FROM SUGARLAND TO MISSOURI CITY. THEY ARE NOT ALL TIMED TOGETHER. I THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING MORE REASONABLY ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND HELPING COORDINATE TOGETHER TO HELP PEOPLE MOVE MORE EFFICIENTLY AN I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. IT IS GREAT THAT THIS IS THE STEP OF THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT I WANT TO EXPLORE WHAT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUILD ON TOP OF SHIRLEY AND, HOW WE MIGHT EXPLORE DOING THAT. >> THERE IS THOUGHT I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. APPRECIATED. >> FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, FIR ALARM UPGRADE. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. ANY QUESTIONS? >> SELF THIS IS JUST FOR THE NE BILL. >> IT'S THE ORIGINAL FIRE ALARM SYSTEM FROM -- [01:15:04] AND IT HAS BEEN RED TAGGED AGAI AND BAD THINGS HAPPEN. >> THAT IS SOME OPERATING ITEM THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDED EVERYTHING. >> AND NUMBER 3 IS THE INSULATION REPLACEMENT. >> ON THE ORIGINAL ONE-STORY JAIL BUILDING, THERE IS A FREEWAY OF PIPING. THIS HAS GOT TO BE REPLACED FOR ALL YOUR DOORS OPEN. POT WATER AND COLD WATER EFFICIENCY. SO IT IS AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY THING. >> QUESTIONS. DOES ANY OF THIS GO INTO THIS PHASE ENERGY SAVINGS PROGRAMS. >> THAT ONE WE DID NOT DO THIS PARTICULAR THING WHERE WE ARE DOING ALL THE SYSTEM REPLACEMENTS WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE. >> OKAY. >> NUMBER 4, JUSTICE CENTER EXPANSION UPGRADE. >> THIS IS THE UGLY ONE. THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE A PRETTY COMPLEX LIGHTING CONTROL SYSTEM AND THE ONE IN THE EXPANSION, THE COMPANY IS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE AND THERE STARTING TO FAIL ON IT. THERE ARE ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE WE HAD HOT WATER AROUND THE SYSTEM WHICH KEEPS THE LIGHTS ON, WHICH MEANS THE LIGHTS NEVER GO OFF, 24-7. AND THAT IS IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE EXPANSION. THAT IS AN UGLY EXPENSIVE YOU LEARN A LESSON. IT IS ALL HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY . AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REPLACE IT. QUESTIONS. LANDMARK COMMUNITY CENTER ROOFING. >> WE ACQUIRED THE BUILDING AND DID THE RENOVATION AND WE DID A BUNCH OF PATCHING REPAIRS BUT I IS TIME. >> SENIOR HEALTHCARE. >> CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> SENIORS THERE. AND THERE WERE BUCKETS ON THE FLOOR TO CATCH ALL THE ROOF LEAKS AND THE SENIORS HAD TO WALK AROUND TO AVOID THE BUCKETS . THAT WAS BUILDING -- BUILT IN 1933. >> THAT IS THAT FOR ME? >> NUMBER 6 IS FIRE MARSHAL. >> HOLD ON, WHILE YOU WERE HERE JAMIE, BETH S QUESTIONS. WHAT WE DOING. I LOOK AT THE JUSTICE CENTER EVERY DAY. IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD. ARE WE DOING ANYTHING? >> IT HAS BEEN THAT LONG SINCE WE PRESSURE WASH THAT THEY AND WE ARE ABOUT TO TRY ANOTHER ONE ON IT. IT'S JUST BEEN A COUPLE YEARS. >> LESS THAN THAT FOR SOME REASON THAT STONE IS GOING BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT. SO TO CLEAN IT, NEXT TIME WE GE ALL CLEAN, WE ARE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER SEALER COAT ON IT WHICH WILL HELP RESIST THE GROWTH BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES LOOK BAD. >> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. THE LANDMARK COMMUNITY CENTER, IT IS ONE OF OUR SHELTERS AND THE GENERATOR, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. >> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY. >> YES, PARKS AND RECREATION ACCOUNTS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT . >> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT CBD MONEY APPEARS. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT . >> I'M TALKING ABOUT AS A SHELTER. >> AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT A SOURCE O FUNDS. >> ALL RIGHT GOOD IDEA. >> ALL RIGHT, NOW WE WILL GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL MISSOURI CITY. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COUNSELORS. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY THAT WERE TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH ON THE FIRE MONEY AND LOOK AT AN [01:20:01] AGREEMENT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SOME OF THAT FUNDING WILL COME FROM MY GENERAL BUDGET. >> UP RIGHT NOW WE BUDGET $172,000 A YEAR. FORGERY CITY. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YES, SIR. >> FOR HOW LONG WOULD THAT GO AWAY. >> WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH ED AND HIS TEAM WORKING UP SOME NUMBERS AND THINGS FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S LOOKING AT A TEN YEAR BUT THAT COULD VARY DEPENDING ON ONCE WE COMPLETE THE STUDY WITH ED STEEN. >> THIS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE ARE SHIFTING OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER BECAUSE IT IS ALL LONG LIFE CAPITAL ASSET AND, YES, WE ARE CONVEYING OWNERSHIP TO THE CITY AS WELL AS THE NEXT ITEM AND IT IS A BETTER APPROACH FOR FUNDIN THOSE HIGH COST OF LONG LIFE ASSETS. RATHER THAN PAYING THEM THEIR ANNUAL FEE OUT OF HIS OPERATING BUDGET, WE FINANCE APPARATUS. THAT IS THE WORD YOU USED. EQUIPMENT. IT IS SOMETHING THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUY FROM THEIR OPERATING BUDGET. >> I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING . IS THIS A PROPERTY FROM MISSOUR CITY. >> NO, WE ARE BUYING IT. >> MISSOURI CITY. >> AND THEN WE USE THEIR ANNUAL ALLOCATION TO GO AGAINST THAT CAPITAL ACQUISITION OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER BASED ON THE TOTAL COST AND THE ANNUAL ALLOCATION. >> YOU SEEM CONFUSED. >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE AR DOING THIS KIND OF ARRANGEMENT. >> NO, SIR PAID WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF ROSENBERG IN THE CITY OF STAFFORD AND GOING ALONG WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND FOR THREE YEARS WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW. >> DO YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT? >> WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS THE LAST FEW YEARS. I WILL LET YOU ALL HANDLE THAT STAY OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> JUST USING -- MOVING UP FROM M&O TO INS. >> NUMBER 7 IS THE FIRE TRUCK. >> DUE TO SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE CITY OF RICHMOND, THEY HAVE SOME AREAS THEY DO NOT WANT TO COVER ANY LONGER SO I REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS FOR THOSE AREAS FOR COVERAGE AND THEY ARE AGREEING TO COVER SOME OF THAT AND PART OF THE NEGOTIATION IS REQUESTING THIS TRUCK THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THE SAME ITEMS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE AND WE WHAT THEN HAVE TO WORK OUT THEIR PREVIOUS CONTRACT AND REALIGN EVERYTHING WITH THAT PREVIOUS PURCHASE AS WELL FOR THAT ADDED AREA. >> I COULD NOT FIND WHERE WE CURRENTLY PAY. >> WE DON'T BECAUSE WE ARE UNDE CONTRACT WITH THAT TRUCK RIGHT NOW SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAV TO LOOK AT FROM ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE OR DEPENDING ON WHAT WE COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS, WE HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS. >> NUMBER OF YEARS WE ARE LOOKING AT. >> RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL ADVANCING THE EARMARK. THIS IS GOOD TO COME BACK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL . AND THE NUMBER OF YEARS, IF THI TRUCK IS APPROVED, THIS WILL BE BASED ON THEIR ANNUAL ALLOCATION . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IT CASE MANAGEMENT ENTERPRIS SOLUTION. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING PRE-THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE COURT THIS MORNING. I AM ONE OF THE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS IN THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE SORT 14C APS TO PRESENT [01:25:04] TO YOU AND THEY WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE MANAGER OR SUPERVISOR IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE COURT AND OUR FIRST PRESENTER IS BEVERLY CHANCE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS BEVERLY CHANCE AND I'M THE APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND I AM PRESENT RECENT METAL FOR CASE MANAGEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR AND WE ARE CONTINUING THE SUPPORT AND IMPLEMENTATION FOR HELPING HUMA SERVICES BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES CLINICAL HEALTH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND SUPPORT THE PUBLIC IN MANAGING CASES AN FINANCES AND REPORTING AND ALSO I HAVE ASHLEY HERE IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BUT THERE SEVERAL ITEMS HERE THAT WERE APPROVED I 2026. THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT DID NOT, THAT ABOUT START OF THE PROJECT AS OF APRIL WERE ASKED TO RESUBMIT. I WAS TOLD, ROBIN LET ME KNOW THAT ALL THE PROJECTS IN ALL TH IT PROJECTS THAT NOT BEEN STARTED AS OF APRIL HAVE ALL BEEN ASSIGNED A PROJECT MANAGER AND WILL BE STARTED BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, SO ALL OF THOSE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR 2026, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. WE ARE, JUST IN CASE FOR WHATEVER REASON MOST DO NOT GET STARTED THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL HAVE TO REALLOCATE. >> AND BY HAVEN'T WE STARTED. >> IT'S A LONG PROCESS. WE'VE SUBMITTED THE RFP. >> CAN YOU SPEAK UP QUICK. >> WE SUBMITTED THE RP SO WE HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS. IT IS A PROCESS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. >> THIS ALSO INCLUDES BEHAVIORA HEALTH AS WELL IT IS A CONGLOMERATE OF DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT. >> NUMBER 9 IS IT ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGING COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS JOSHU ASHBURN AND I'M THE PROGRAMMING SUPERVISOR IN IP. THIS CAP IS SEEKING THE REMOVAL OF FUTURE FUNDING FOR OUR GEOSPATIAL PLATFORM IN THE COUNTY AND THIS AFFECTS MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND A TEA 1 AND 2 APPLICATIONS IN THE COUNTY. THE AMOUNT BEING SOUGHT IS 1,390,000 OVER THE COURSE OF TH NEXT THREE YEARS AND WE ARE WRAPPING UP THE FIRST THREE GEAR . MAC THIS FISCAL YEAR SO THIS IS A RENEWAL OF THAT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. >> ANY -- ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 10 IS THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGING COMMISSIONERS. I WILL BE PRESENTING ABOUT HALF OF ENTERPRISE SYSTEMS PART OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY THERE FO ASKING $200,000 FOR AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THIS IS A NEW SUBMISSION AS WELL. WOULD SERVE THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME AND IT LACKS CONFIGURATIONS AND REQUIRES A LOT OF MANUAL INTERVENTIONS AND ARE TO MAKE THINGS ARE UPLOADED EFFICIENTLY. THE NEW SYSTEM WILL HAVE -- WILL ENSURE WE HAVE A MORE PRO- BOERS -- ROBUST STATE-OF-THE-ART COMPLAINTS AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT AUDIOVISUAL REQUIREMENTS AND WILL ALSO PROVIDE ATMOSPHERE AN OVERSIGHT CONFIGURATIONS AND IMPROVE PUBLIC ACCESS AND HAVE ACCURATE RECORDINGS OF THE MEETINGS. THIS APPLIES FOR ALL MEETINGS O THE COUNTY AND THEY CAN BE USED IN THE NEW SYSTEM. >> IS THE PLATFORM WE CURRENTLY USE FOR THE AGENDA QUICK COME I THAT SOMETHING THAT IS STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OTHER GOVERNMENTS ARE WE UNIQUE, ONE OF THE FEW. >> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER COUNTIES, BUT WE'VE BEEN USING IT FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE USING THE SAM [01:30:06] SYSTEM. >> SO IT IS USED BY THEIR ENTITIES, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES BUT THEY ARE SMALLER. WHEN IT WAS OBTAINED BACK IN TH DAY, IT WAS ENOUGH BACK OF THE DAY BUT A LEAST TEN YEARS, MAYB MORE. 2009, SO THIS COUNTY, IT WAS GOOD FOR IT. WE COULD USE IT BUT AS THE YEAR HAVE PASSED, WE HAVE REALLY OUTGROWN IT AND WITH TECHNOLOGY THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE COULD DO BETTER. >> I USED TO HAVE TO BRING MY HOTSPOT SO I COULD HAVE INTERNET . >> BUT I KNOW WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF HEADACHES AND I THINK WE HAD AN ISSUE RECENTLY WHERE THE BACKUP COULDN'T BE PUBLISHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT IS DEFINITELY TIME. >> ARE WE ABLE TO RELEGATE ALL THOSE ISSUES WITH THE NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEM QUICK. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> NUMBER 11 IS THE IT FIRST RESPONDER BUNDLE. >> GOOD MONEY JUDGING COMMISSIONERS. OPERATIONS MANAGER MIGUEL. A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE FIRST RESPONDERS BUNDLE AND THIS INCLUDES THE BODY CAMERAS AND TASERS. WE HAVE THE EXISTING CONTRACT THAT GOES WITHIN RIGHT NOW SO THIS IS AN ADD-ON TO THAT TEN YEAR CONTRACT IT AWAY THAT IT I QUOTED UP FOR A SIX-YEAR. MAXIMA SIX YOUR YOUR TOTAL, TO INCORPORATE ALL THOSE PEOPLE. >> SO IT IS AN ADD-ON. >> GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOUR. >> AND THEN THE ELECTION SERVER UPGRADE. >> OF THIS IS FOR THE ELECTION SERVER. OR FOR SITTING BACK OVER HERE T SUPPORT THIS IN CASE HE NEEDS T COME UP THIS IS THERE -- THEY HAVE STATIONS THAT ARE IN THERE. AND IT IS REALLY ANTIQUATED. AND IT HAS BECOME A SECURITY PROBLEM IN IP AS WELL SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT. >> MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. >> AGAIN, GOOD MORNING JUDGING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS BEVERLY CHANCE, APPLICATIONS MANAGER AND I AM PRESENTING THE REQUEST TO IMPLEMENT VOTER REGISTRATION AN ELECTION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THE SOLUTION -- THE CURRENT SOLUTION HAS REACHE END-OF-LIFE SO WE ARE ASKING FO 1,045,010 MOVED TO A NEW PLATFORM THAT CAN INTEGRATE ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS THAT WILL CONDUCT ELECTIONS, REGISTRATION AND MANAGE INFORMATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION, LET ME KNOW. I ALSO HAVE CHASE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS CIP. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU PAID. >> NUMBER 14 IS THE SHERIFF OFFICE CLUSTER. >> YOU'VE SEEN ME A COUPLE TIME APPEAR PAID PEOPLE GET THROUGH IT. >> THIS IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE SHERIFFS OFFICE HAS HAS A VIRTUAL SERVER STACK THAT HOUSE ALL OF THEIR CRITICAL APPLICATIONS. ANYTHING THAT HAS RUN WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE SUPPORTED. AND THEY ARE NO LONGER GOING TO EXTEND ANY KIND OF SERVICE TO THIS STACK SO WOULD NEED TO UPGRADE IT. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS ON HERE. HAVE YOU FOUND THAT IT HAS TO B DONE NOW OR WE ARE IN THE POSITION HERE AND THERE ARE SECURITY ISSUES AND THERE'S OPERATIONAL ISSUES. >> THIS IS THEIR PRODUCTION WORLD AND EVERYTHING BREAKS GOE WRONG WITH IT, THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT. THERE IS NO SUPPORT OR ANYTHING. THAT IS WHY WE ARE TRYING TO GE IT REPLACED. [01:35:02] >> THIS IS A SERVER APPEARS. >> IT IS A MULTIPLE SERVER APPEAR SO WHAT IT IS, IT IS FOR INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS SERVER BOXES THAT CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY HAD ALL THE PRODUCTION SERVERS ON. >> I APOLOGIZE. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THANK YOU. SMART CITY DEVELOPMENT. I AM THE MANAGER HERE IN IT AND THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE IS A SOLUTION TO GET FUNDING. IT IS AN INITIATIVE TO MOVE FOR BEND COUNTY FOREWORD FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND PREPARE FOR FUTUR GROWTH BE AT THE INITIATIVE FOCUSES ON MAKING COUNTY SERVICES MORE EFFICIENT AND IMPROVE -- IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ENHANCE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE OR COMMUNITY. FOR USING THIS MODERN SMART TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS SMART STREET LIGHTING, REAL-TIME REPORTING, COMMUNICATION BETWEE ART DEPARTMENTS, IT CAN MOVE TH COUNTY FROM SIMPLY REACTING TO PROBLEMS IN GETTING A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH. THIS EFFORT WILL POSITION AS A LEADER IN INNOVATION AND SMART GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATIONS AND SMART CITY TECHNOLOGY. IT CAN ALSO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SAVINGS OVER OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT. JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF SMART CITY TECHNOLOGY CAN OFFER, THE SMART STREET LIGHTING, WHICH REDUCES ENERGY AND IMPROVES VISIBILITY AND SAFETY. MONETARY DEVICES THAT CAN MEASURE QUALITY. AIR-QUALITY NOISE, TEMPERATURE, IRRIGATION, WATER WASTE, AND INADVERTENTLY PRODUCING DAMAGE AND REPAIR COSTS. SMART MANAGEMENT AS FAR AS WASTE , FOR YOU HAVE DEVICES THAT WILL NOTIFY YOU AND TRASH CANS ARE FULL. AND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE. THIS INTEGRATES BACKEND THE CAMERAS THAT IS UTILIZED FOR TH MONETARY PARKING LOTS. THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING IS EITHER THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THREE YEARS AND IF THE FUNNIEST IMPROVE APPROVED, ARE FAIR GROUNDS FOR LOCATION, WE ALL KNOW THE FAIRGROUNDS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND HAS YEAR-ROUND EVENTS. IT'S AN OPEN AREA SO THE TESTIN AND ANALYTICS MAKES IT AN IDEAL LOCATION AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SITUATIONS WILL GO BACK INTO OU EMERGENCY RESPONSE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT WA BROUGHT UP IN OUR IT COMMITTEE. IT WAS THAT SOME OF THE CITIES ALREADY HAVE USE THIS TO MAKE UTILIZED THIS AND THE COUNTY IS NOTIFIED IF SOMETHING WERE TO ARRIVE. HOW WOULD THIS BE DIFFERENT FRO THE CITIES USING IT. >> ASK YOUR QUESTION AGAIN. THEIR PERSONAL HIM CITIES THAT UTILIZE SMART CITY DEVELOPMENT AND IF THERE IS, I GUESS ONE SITUATION, ONE COMMENT RIGHT GA METER WAS GOING CRAZY, THAT CIT BUT WOULD NOTIFY THE COUNTY. HOW WOULD THE COUNTY GET INTO SMART CITY BENEFIT OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE ARE RV GETTING PAID. >> WE PUT HALF THE CONTROL OF THAT GET THE REAL-TIME. AND THAT IS YOUR ACACIAN SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE THE WATER LEAK AND OFFERING THE REAL-TIME REPORTIN OF A LEAK BEFORE IT IS OUT OF CONTROL SO WITH THAT YOU HAVE REPORTING COMING BACK AND WAITING ON SOMEONE ELSE TO GIVE US THAT DATA. >> AND THE SMART CITY TECHNOLOGY , THIS IS KIND OF A BROAD GENERAL CATEGORY AND THER ARE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN FRONT OF THESE THINGS AS AS SIMPLE AS, NOT SIMPLE, BUT IT I THE LIGHTING IN OUR PARKS ALONG THE TRAILS THAT WOULD BE SENSOR-BASED WERE THE ONLY COMPONENT OFFICE PEOPLE APPROAC THE LIGHT. THAT IS ONE. LIKE SHE SAID, WE SAW PSALM TECHNOLOGY AND I THINK IT WAS [01:40:03] LAST YEAR OR SOMETIME. SOMEONE DEMONSTRATED SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD DO SOME PROTECTION AND MONITOR THE EFFICIENT USE OF OUR WATER. ON THOSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS WHY THINK THE CONNECTIVITY IS A BIGGER QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE MONITOR THESE THINGS MORE BROADLY FOR OUR MUNICIPALITIES THAT ALREADY DONE SOME OF THIS AND HOW WE MIGHT EVEN ENCOURAGE SOME OF OUR MODS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL AS MY SUGGESTION WITH THIS WOULD BE WE LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN USE COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT FUNDING FOR THOSE PARK AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT MIGHT BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF A CAD AND THEN PARTICULARLY FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS, YOU ARE WORKIN WITH COMMISSIONER MEIER'S TO SE HOW THIS MIGHT INTEGRATE INTO THE MASTER PLAN THAT IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW FOR THAT CAMPUS THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. >> THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO AD IS THAT THIS DEVICES ARE WIRELESS DEVICES AND THEY DO INTEGRATE CURRENTLY INTO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IFP'S THAT W CURRENTLY HAVE. SO THAT IS A POSITIVE. ALONG WITH THAT, BECAUSE OF THE ISPS, WE DO HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY . SO WE HAVE A PRIMARY CIRCUIT AT SOME OF OUR SITE. AND WOULD LIKE TO AT THAT SECONDARY ISP TO FORTIFY THOSE SITES AND ALSO SUPPORT THE SMAR CITY TECHNOLOGY. >> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >> NUMBER 16 IS THE CLOUD -BASE CONTACT CENTER AND PAYMENT PROCESSING SYSTEM. >> CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE A CONTACT CENTER SOLUTION. AND THIS IS BASICALLY SUPPORTS THE INBOUND AND OUTBOUND COMMUNICATION BUT HAS MULTI CHANNEL CAPABILITIES AND THE OPTION FOR CUSTOMERS TO PAY WIT THEIR COUNTY BUSINESS ONLINE. GOING TO THE CONTACT CENTER SOLUTION ON BASE PAYMENTS, ONLINE PAYMENT SYSTEMS BUT GIVE US A MODERN CLOUD BASE SERVICE, E-MAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES, ONLINE CHAT AND SOCIAL MEDIA COMMUNICATION ALL IN ONE. THIS BILL HELP STAFF TO RESPOND AND REDUCE WAIT TIMES AND ISSUE RESOLUTION AND RESOLVING BETTER OVERALL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE BID THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES ADDING A SECURE ELECTRONIC PAYMENT OPTION AND ALLOWS CUSTOMERS TO MAKE THEIR PAYMENT ONLINE OR BY PHONE OR MAKING SERVICES BY REDUCING LOBBY TIME AND TRAFFIC AND THE DEPENDENCY ON THE IN PERSON AGENT OR PERSO TO TALK TO AT THE COUNTER. THE COUNTY CURRENTLY -- THE SYSTEMS IS PRIMARILY FOCUSE ON PHONE CALLS AND LIMITED ABILITY SUPPORT, WHETHER COMMUNICATION CONTRIBUTES TO TH THINGS I JUST STATED. MOVING TO THE CLOUD BASE SIMPLIFIES SYSTEM MAINTENANCE T PROVIDE THE FLEXIBILITY AND SCALABILITY NEEDED TO GROW AS DEMANDS ARE REQUESTED. THIS INVESTMENT WILL STRENGTHEN THE END CUSTOMER FOCUSED SERVICES BOOKKEEPING STANDARD-T THE PUBLIC TO THE OTHER BENEFIT IS BY GOING TO THE CLOUD VERSIO OF CONTACT CENTER AND WE HAVE THE HARDWARE THAT WE USE NOW FO THE ON PRINT AND ALSO ANY MAINTENANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ON PRIM NOW, HAVE TO TAKE ONE AFTER HOURS TO MAKE THOSE SOFTWARE UPDATES WHEN THAT CLOU VERSION IS IN PLACE, IT IS ALL DONE BEHIND THE SCENES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN DEPARTMENTS ON CENTER TODAY AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE MIGRATED OVER TO THE CLOUD VERSION IF IT IS APPROVED. THE SYSTEM IS SCALABLE SO AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS DECIDE THEY WANT TO GO INTO THE CONTACT CENTER ENVIRONMENT OR ENGAGE IN THE ONLINE PAYMENT OPTION, IT I SCALABLE AND VISIBLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS A COST OF $1.4 MILLION OVER FOUR YEARS ANY QUESTIONS. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. IT'S PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU, JOY. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, CARMEN. >> AND GOING TO HAVE CARMEN COM UP. [01:45:06] >> PAID 3-POINT 5% OF THE FEE. WILL THIS STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING AND PAID DIRECTLY. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I DO A LOT, EVERYTHING THAT I CAN WITH APPL PAY. IT'S OVER AND DONE. JUST HELP US GET TO THAT POINT. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU WANT TO COME UP. >> YOU WILL STILL BE CHARGED 3-POINT 5%. >> GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO IT FOR MINUTE THAT WE NOT STOP YOUR PAYMENTS AT THE 3-POINT 5% FEE BUT WOULD HELP US KEEP THE TRAFFIC DOWN AND OUR CALL CENTERS THIS A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THE TAX OFFICE RIGHT NOW WITH THE HELP OF IT THAT WE ARE USING FOUR. IT HELPS US WITH ALL THE PAPERWORK AND WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THE CLOUD AND WE HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED THE TAX OFFICE, NOT IN A BAD WAY, BUT I A GOOD WAY. IT'S MORE SUCCESSFUL FOR THE PEOPLE. TEXT MESSAGE AND EVERYTHING THA WE'VE WORKED WITH WHERE PEOPLE CAN TEXT IN AND THEY WILL NEED TO COME INSIDE THE BUILDING AND WAIT IN LINE. AND ALL OF US HELPS THAT BUT IT WON'T SAVE YOU ANY MONEY AT ALL. IF I GO TO PAY SOMETHING IN THE TAX OFFICE. IP 3-POINT 5%. I USE CASH OR CHECK. AND THAT IS THE CONTRACT IN ORDER TO GET THE SURFACE FOR. THE COUNTY DOESN'T OFFER IT. SO GRANT STREET IS OUR PROVIDER BUT THAT. >> I GO TO A RESTAURANT AND I DON'T PAY 3-POINT 5%. >> IS ACTUALLY STATUTORY. >> IT IS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IF THE COUNTY CAN ABSORB THE MERCHANT FEE, THAT A CONVENIENCE FEE IS REQUIRED FOR THE CUSTOMER AND IT IS PRIMARIL THOSE GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS, PAYING YOUR TAXES, YOUR FEES AN FINES AND FEES AND COURT COSTS THAT YOUR DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE IN THE CODE DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENT T ABSORB THAT FEE. AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE CAN COME ARE THERE'S NOT A LIMITATION. AND WE DO. AND YOU ALL SET THE FEES FOR TH OFFICER STOPPED THE COUNTY. WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COST OF THAT TRANSACTION IS INCLUDED IN THAT. >> IT'S MORE EFFICIENT. >> YOUR EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED FOR THE RESTAURANT IS THERE ABSORBING THAT FEE AND THE DON' PUT IT IN AS A LAY ITEM ON YOUR BILL. THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU GO TO SOME GAS STATIONS, IT'S A MINIMUM OF $10 TO BE ABLE TO USE A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO PAY IT ON THE BACKEND. SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY IT IT IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT IT IS THE CUSTOMER WHEN IT COMES THAT WINDOW OR THE COUNTY. >> THERE IS NO FEE ANYWHERE. >> EVEN OUR NEW MACHINE THAT WE RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T TAKE ANY CASH PRUDENTL TAKES CREDIT CARDS AND CHECKS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I AM MISSING? THE FEE IS CHARGED AND GOES TO GRANT STREET SO WE DON'T GET THAT OUT. >> WHAT IS -- KEEPING THE APPLICATION THAT WILL BE USED FOR THE CLOUD -BASED CONTRACTS CENTER PAYMENT AND PROCESS. GIVING APPLICATION. >> I KNOW WE USE -- [INDISCERNIBLE] TO BE HONEST PROPERTY TAXES, YO MEAN, FOR THE PAYMENT. OR WHAT THIS IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, IT'S REAL ELEMENTARY. WHEN YOU COME INTO AN ORGANIZATION, YOU HAVE PROPS WHERE YOU HAD A PROMPT TO DO THIS OR DO THAT. I WILL JUST SAY TAX OFFICE, FOR EXAMPLE PAGE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO A PROPERTY AGENT OR AN AUTO AGENT PICKED LIKE AN AUTO ATTENDANT THAN. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THERE WILL BE AN OPTION FOR YOU WOULD LIKE TO PAY YOUR BILL ONLINE EVEN LIKE TO GET COUNTY INFORMATION OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND NOW YOU'RE INTO THIS [01:50:03] ONLINE PAYMENT OPTION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO AND IF ONCE YOU HAVE DONE -- TAKING CARE OF YOUR BUSINESS FROM A PAYMENT PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY I DO NEE TO TALK TO AN AGENT AND YOU CAN HIT AN OPTION IT WILL TAKE YOU BACK IN THE SYSTEM FOLLOWS YOU AND KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT ALL SEAMLESSLY ALL IN ONE. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. AWESOME. >> YOU NO ONE YOU CALL AND YOU WANT TO GET A BILL AND FIND WHA YOUR BILL IS, WITHOUT WHATEVER AND YOUR BALANCE, THAT HELPS TH TAX OFFICE INSTEAD OF A LIVE PERSON TELLING THEM THAT. >> TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. >> WHEN YOU CALL RIGHT NOW YOU GET A LIVE PERSON. THAT LIFE PERSON HAS TO BREAK DOWN YOUR BILL AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN JUST TREAD WHEN YOUR PHONE UP AND IT WILL BREAK DOWN A PAYMENT. ALL OF THIS WILL BE GOING THROUGH THEM. WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE CLOUD SO WE WON'T HAVE TO HAVE SO MUC MANPOWER. WERE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM SO MUCH MANPOWER. AT HELPS US IN A LOT OF WAYS. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU. NEXT. >> COMPUTER REFRESH. >> SO THIS IS THE COMPUTER REFRESH, PART OF THE CONTINUING INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE HAD AT IT ACROSS THE INCA ENTIRE COUNTY. ASSISTANT CON DOES COMPREHENSIV REFRESH WE CAN MODERNIZE AND KEEP UP-TO-DATE OUR ENTIRE FLEE OF PCS AND THIS INCLUDES EVERYBODY WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE FULL LIBRARY WITH WHICH WE NOW SUPPORT. IT GIVES US CONSISTENT LIFECYCL MANAGEMENT, CAPABILITIES AND AS TECHNOLOGY HAS GROWN AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT SIX YEARS AGO , I LIFECYCLE RANGE SIX YEARS ON A PC, TECHNOLOGY JUST THOSE LEAPS AND BOUNDS OF WHAT WAS GOOD FIVE TO SIX YEARS AGO PROBABLY CAN'T RUN WHAT USED TO RUN TODAY. CELEBRATE GOOD IDEA IS WINDOWS 11. WE LOST A BUNCH OF THE FLEET BECAUSE IT COULD NO LONGER RUN THAT OPERATING SYSTEM. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYONE. >> NUMBER 18, DISASTER RECOVERY. >> THAT'S FINE. >> AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE NEW DISASTER RECOVERY SIDE THAT WE IMPLEMENTED. AT IT HAS COME BACK INTO THE LATE PAGE. IN THE TEXT THAT LOAD AND SPREADS ACROSS DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. SAME THINGS HAPPENS WITHIN OUR COURT SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE . MULTIPLE REQUESTS OR COVENANT AND IT BALANCES THAT LOW FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS. WE NEED THAT SAME CONTACT TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE AT THE DISASTER RECOVERY SITE. >> QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. IT IS ALL GOOD. >> NUMBER 19, ASSEMBLY -- JURY ASSEMBLY ROOM, CLOSE CAPTIONING. >> THIS REQUEST IS TO MODERNIZE THE AVM VIDEO SYSTEM IN THE ROO AT THE JUSTICE CENTER. THAT PARTICULAR AV SYSTEM IS 15 YEARS OLD AND IS NOBLE LONGER WITHIN THE STANDARDS OF AV TECHNOLOGY OR THE STANDARDIZATION OF THE EQUIPMEN THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE COUNTY. THE SYSTEM WILL IMPROVE THE SOUND QUALITY AND HAVE EFFICIEN MONITORS. AS WELL AS ADDING THE CLOSE CAPTIONING PORTION FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED. ALL JURORS CAN FULLY PARTICIPAT THROUGHOUT THE JURY SELECTION PROCESS WHILE SUPPORTING THE COMMITMENT AND ACCESSIBILITY AN 88 COMPLIANT. THEY IMPROVE THE PUBLIC SERVICE IN MODERNIZING PUBLIC FACE AND FACILITY. THE REQUEST IS FOR 490,000. I HAVE BEVERLY WALKER HERE FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE AND SHE PUT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AN MAKE SOME COMMENTS. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THE JURY ASSEMBLY ROOM SO THAT EVERY [01:55:03] CETERA SON WHO WANTS TO SERVE A A JUROR WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO. WE ARE ADDING CLOSE CAPTIONING FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED WHO WANT TO SERVE AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY CAN READ RIGHT FROM THE SCREEN AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BETTER MONITORS IN MORE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE NOW IN THE JURY ROOM S THEY CAN SEE FROM WHATEVER POSITION THEY ARE SITTING AND I THE JURY ROOM AND THEY CAN READ FROM THOSE MONITORS. A LOT OF OUR INSURERS ARE ELDERLY AND SO THEY NEED ENHANCED CAPABILITY TO READ SOM OF THE THINGS DURING THE JURY PROCESS AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE MAKING WILL ALSO ASSIST THEM. QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 20 IF THE LIBRARY PHONE SYSTEM CONVERSION. >> THIS IS OF RECENT METAL FROM 2025 THAT WAS APPROVED AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF FUNDING OF THE LEGACY PHONE SYSTEM IN TRANSITION TO THE SAME MODERNIZATION PHONE SYSTEM WE HAVE ACROSS THE COUNTY TODAY. THIS THE LAST QUESTION ON THE PLATFORM THAT IS STILL ON THE OLD LEGACY SYSTEM AND THEY WERE PREPARED TO BRING HIM FORWARD O THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE ACTUAL SUPPORT OF THE SYSTEM WOULD ALLEVIATE AND SEPARATE THE SERVICE AGREEMENT CONTRACT THAT STAYS WITH THAT OLD LEGACY SYSTEM AND IT WILL COME ALL OF THE SAME PLATFORM, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF SUPPORT FOR THE VOICE WILL FALL BACK ON VOICE. AND ALSO INCLUDES INSTALLING NE PHONES AND VOICEMAIL AND CALL ROUTING FULLY CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AT WORK. THIS WILL SIMPLIFY THE MAINTENANCE AND REDUCE THE COST OF THE SUPPORT COST AND PROVIDE THE STAFF AND PROVIDE A MORE FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE BIG THIS IS AN ASK OF $85,120 TO PURCHASE THE REMAINING PRODUCTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THAT'S ALL GOOD. APPRECIATE IT. >> NUMBER 21 IS THE RECEIPT MANAGEMENT UNDER ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS. >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN. THIS IS A RESUBMITTAL OF A CAP YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR AND ALSO IT IS $630,000 OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND IT IS FOR THE ENTERPRISE SOLUTION FOR RECEIPT MANAGEMENT THAT AFFECTS MULTIPL DEPARTMENTS ON THE FINANCIAL SECTOR FOR FORT BEND COUNTY. AT AFFECTS ALL PRIVATE SYSTEMS THAT ARE COLLECTING PAYMENTS FO THE COUNTY SO THERE IS A GROUP OF SOFTWARE THAT WILL TOUCH THI SOLUTION AS WELL. >> ALL RIGHT >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WE ARE GOING TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT. NUMBER 22 IS SHERIFF DETENTION EAST AND WEST TOWER. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THE SHERIFF IS NOT HERE SO WE WILL MOVE ON. NUMBER 23 WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED. NUMBER 24, THE LIBRARY, THE SIENNA BOILER SYSTEM REPLA REPLACEMENT. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROOSEVELT WEEKS AND I'M THE PROUD DIRECTOR OF THE FORT BEND COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM. ITEM 24, THE BOILER SYSTEM AT THE SIENNA LIBRARY IS CORRODING. THE SYSTEM IS BEING PATCHED EVERY OTHER MONTH BY OUR TEAM. OUR FEAR IS THAT IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT'S GOING TO BREAK AND CAUSE MAJOR DAMAGE TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING IF IT DOES FLOOD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> HOW OLD IS THE SYSTEM? >> WE OPENED THE BUILDING IN 2010. >> THAT'S ALMOST 16 YEARS OLD. >> YES, 16 YEARS OLD. ITEM NUMBER 25, AV SYSTEM. CURRENTLY EVERY BRANCH IN THE LIBRARY SYSTEM IS OUTDATED IT IS HEAVILY USED BY OUR PUBLIC AND OUR STAFF. [02:00:03] WE HAVE OVER 1.5 TO 1.7 MILLION VISITORS EVERY YEAR. THEY COME IN TO USE OUR SYSTEMS AND A LOT OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE OUTDATED OR NOT WORKING AT ALL. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT SYSTEM REPLACED. AND THAT'S IN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS OVER AT COUNTY I.T. >> I WAS AT SIENNA BRANCH LIBRARY FOR AN EVENT AND UNIVERSITY BRANCH LIBRARY FOR AN EVENT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT TECHNICAL ISSUES. I CAN ATTEST TO THE URGENT NEED. IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING AND VERY EMBARRASSING BEING A COMMISSIONER SITTING IN THE ROOM AS THESE ISSUES PLAYED OUT. >> AND I AGREE. AND WE HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO OUR PUBLIC ON A LOT OF OCCASIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SYSTEMS THAT ARE WORKING WHEN THEY COME IN, EXPECTING WE SHOULD HAVE THEM WORKING HERE. >> QUESTIONS COMMENTS. >> ITEM 26, WE ARE IN NEED OF A LIFT. THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE TEAM, WE CURRENTLY DO A LOT OF OUR WORK OURSELVES. THIS LIFT WILL HELP US ALLEVIATE HAVING TO HIRE CONTRACTORS. RIGHT NOW IF WE HAVE TO DO TREE TRIMMING, WE HAVE TO BRING IN A VENDOR TO DO THE TREE TRIMMING OR POWER WASHING, WE HAVE TO HAVE VENDORS COME IN AND DO THAT. IF WE HAD THIS LIFT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK OURSELVES. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE DONE 27, 28, 29 AND 30, AND 31. THE LAST ITEM IS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED MONDAY. THIS IS THE 178 VEHICLES FOR A TOTAL OF $18 MILLION. $18.5 MILLION. JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS OF ALL THE 32 PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY, 1 MILLION IS OUR OPERATING ITEMS THAT WOULD, IF APPROVED, NEED TO GO BACK INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. 20.6 MILLION ARE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, YES, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCING IF THEY WERE TO APPROVE. 18 MILLION OF THAT ARE THE VEHICLES. IT WOULD JUST NOT BE A C I. P PROJECT IT WOULD BE TAGGED AS A CAPITAL EQUIPMENT. 1.48 MILLION OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE JUST REVIEWED WERE ALREADY APPROVED IN 2026. SO AS LONG AS THOSE PROJECTS ARE INITIATED THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE WILL MOVE ON WITH THOSE, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN FUNDED. THE REMAINING 28.45 MILLION ARE NEW REQUESTS FOR 2027 FOR A TOTAL OF -- IN A. OF FIVE YEARS IS 52.6 MILLION OR FY 2737.6. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> 427 WE ARE LOOKING AT $37 MILLION? >> THAT IS CORRECT. 665 OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, SIR. FOR 2027. >> QUESTION, COMMENTS. ANY ONE? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> WAITS. >> I SAID QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> CAN I TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST? MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD FROM -- THE BUILDING THAT NEEDS THE SPACE AND THE STUFF THAT'S NOT TAX OFFICE RELATED. ANYONE HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? YOU PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT A, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT THERE. >> THE PLAN FOR THAT IS THE JANE LONG BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO BE FREED UP WHEN IT MOVES LATER THIS YEAR OVER TO THEIR NEW BUILDING. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOVES TO THE NEW FACILITY. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO RELIEVE SPACE. THERE IS A PLAN FOR CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES TO MOVE OVER. I THINK THE CONVERSATION WAS HAVING THEM MOVE OVER EITHER TO JANE LONG, GIVEN THEY ARE CUSTOMER FACING, OR SOMEWHERE, A SMALL SPACE I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT. NOT GUS GEORGE. [02:05:05] >> WHERE WOULD CHILD SUPPORT GOKUI. >> JANE LONG. THAT HAS TO BE AFTER IT MOVES FROM JANE LONG. >> THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS WE HAVE FOR JANE LONG. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO PLAY THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE CONVERSATION BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND THAT LITTLE GROUP OF DA INTEGRITY, THAT ALL FITS IN THERE NICELY. THOSE ARE ALL DIRECTLY RELATED TO JUSTICE FOR JANE LONG HAS SOME SPACES. THEY NEED ABOUT 3900 SQUARE FEET FOR CHILD SUPPORT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NET ABOUT 20 TO 22,000. >> AT JANE LONG. >> RIGHT. >> HR INDICATED INTEREST IN GOING TO JANE LONG. IS THAT RIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> BUT NOT RISK MANAGEMENT? >> CORRECT. >> ANYBODY ELSE VOLUNTEER TO GO TO JANE LONG? >> NOT VOLUNTEER. >> VOLUNTOLD. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME BUILD OUT AND SOME CHANGES SO WHEN IS IT COMING ON LINE? >> WHAT MONTH ARE WE IN? MAY, SEPTEMBER. >> OKAY. THAT MEANS. >> THAT WILL BE FREED UP EARLIER BY A COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> WHEN IS IT SLATED TO MOVE FROM JANE LONG TO THE NEW BUILDING? >> IF EVERYTHING FALLS IN LINE AND IT SHOWS UP WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP, WE COULD TAKE OVER THE BUILDING IN SEPTEMBER BUT THEN OUR TEAM NEEDS WHATEVER TIME THEY NEED AND THAT WOULD TELL YOU HOW MANY WEEKS, MONTHS, WHATEVER TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN. >> IT WOULD BE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? >> FOR SURE. >> IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT BUILD OUT REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE NEW DEPARTMENTS IN JANE LONG? >> YES. BUT IT'S LIGHT INTERIOR RENOVATION. IT'S NOT AGONIZINGLY EXPENSIVE, IT'S JUST SLOPPY. >> WHERE IS THAT ACCOUNT? >> CONVERSATIONS AND WHERE THEY BELONG. AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY A WHILE BACK SMALL FACILITIES. SO THAT WAS IN MY HEAD FOR WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THIS. AND THAT KIND OF HAS WANED AS AN OPTION. SO NOW, I TALKED TO PAMELA THE OTHER DAY ABOUT A ROUGH ESTIMATE FOR DESIGN FEES TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE GOING SO DOWN THE ROAD WHEN IT WAS TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND DO SOMETHING, WE WOULD HAVE DESIGN DONE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING TAKES TIME. DESIGN, FIVE MONTHS ON A RENOVATION, MONTHS TO PROCURE IT. SO YOU ARE SEVEN MONTHS. SO I FLOATED A PANEL LAST WEEK ON WHAT I WOULD NEED FOR A DESIGN FEE. IT'S NOTHING CRAZY BUT WHERE DID WE LAND WITH THAT? WE DIDN'T REALLY LAND. >> NO. WHERE WE LANDED WAS WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH A NUMBER, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE NEW OPERATING BUDGET. >> DID I GIVE YOU A NUMBER? I MOST CERTAINLY DID. >> SO DESIGN WOULD BE IN YOUR OPERATING BUDGET BUT CAPITAL COSTS -- CAN WE DECIDE ON WHAT THAT MIGHT BE AND ACCOUNT FOR IT NOW AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO CONTINGENCY AND DO SOMETHING STRANGE OR IS THIS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE C OS? >> AS LONG AS IT'S THE DESIGN LEADING TO THE FINAL PLANS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, IT IS CAPITAL. >> I DON'T THINK THE COMMISSIONER IS TALKING ABOUT [02:10:01] THE DESIGN PART. THAT'S OPERATIONAL. I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PART. >> IF YOU PUT AN ESTIMATE TOGETHER FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IN ONE SIP REQUEST THAT IS CORRECT. >> PULL A NUMBER OUT OF THE SKY TO DO THE RETROFIT. >> I CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT. >> IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT BECAUSE PART OF IT IS ALSO WHAT THE TRAVIS BUILDING LOOKS LIKE AND THE CHANGES TO THE TRAVIS BUILDING BECAUSE THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF EFFICIENCIES THAT CAN BE DONE TO THE TRAVIS BUILDING. ALSO WITH THE DEPARTMENTS MOVING OUT OF THERE TO JANE LONG OR ELSEWHERE FOR MORE SPACE, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING TO TALK ABOUT JANE LONG, GUS GEORGE AND THE TRAVIS BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN AVOID HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY TO ACCOMMODATE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS. >> TRAVIS BUILDING HAS SOME HUGE OFFICES. >> A QUICK REVIEW, ONE THE JUSTICE CENTRE WAS COMPLETE AND THE COURTS MOVED OUT AND WE STARTED BACK FILLING THE BUILDING, NOBODY HAD THE APPETITE TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY BECAUSE WE HAD JUST SPENT $230 MILLION. SO WE MOVED IN SORT OF AS IS. WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE BUT WE DIDN'T GUT IT EXCEPT FOR THE FLOOR, WE GUTTED ENGINEERING AND REBUILT THAT FLOOR RIGHT BUT THE REST OF THEM WE JUST KIND OF MOVED INTO. AND YES, I AM IN A DISTRICT JUDGE'S OFFICE. I DON'T NEED A DISTRICT JUDGE'S OFFICE BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AND SPEND A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY. WE COULD GO THROUGH THAT THING FLOOR BY FLOOR AND REALLY CLEAN UP EFFICIENCIES AND INCREASE THE STAFF BY 30 OR 40% NO PROBLEM. >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM. >> IT'S US. I HATE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. >> YOUR DEBT STRATEGY IS GOING TO PLAY INTO THIS DECISION. >> I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE SOMETHING UP. I DON'T DO THAT. I DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME BREAKDOWNS ON THINGS AND I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR YOU. >> SO THIS IS PHASE ONE OF THE C I. P. SO THERE WILL BE A PHASE TWO. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BECAUSE WE DID THIS WHEN I WAS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT BUILDING, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THEY HAD A MULTI-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT LITERALLY WENT FLOOR BY FLOOR EACH YEAR. THAT PROBABLY IS WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE AS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE TRAVIS BUILDING. THE OTHER TWO THINGS ARE A BIT MORE PRESSING AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SMALLER BUILDINGS HERE BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK AND PUT TOGETHER A PLAN, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR THAT -- WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHO WOULD GO WHERE. IF YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER A PLAN AND MAYBE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE TRAVIS BUILDING AND WHATEVER ELSE THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE, I THINK THAT'S THE MULTIYEAR APPROACH THAT WE CAN PUT INTO OUR CIP PLAN. >> THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD DO IT IN ONE FISCAL YEAR. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE YEARS. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO DO THIS BEFORE YOU DO THIS AND YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU DO THAT. >> A GREAT CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE MORE. >> WHEN THE CENTRAL -- WERE GOING TO NEED THAT SPACE AS FLEX SPACE TO HOUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHEN WE DO THE OTHER FACILITIES. >> WE COULD USE THAT FOR ONE OR DEPARTMENTS AT A TIME MOVE THEM IN AND THEN AFTER WE GET THAT DONE WE CAN COME BACK. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT. >> THAT IS JUST A BIG OLD OFFICE BUILDING FULL OF ELECTRICITY AND DATA PORTS. IT'S JUST A MOVING COST. >> DID THEY TAKE ANY OF THE FURNITURE WITH THEM WHEN THEY GO? >> I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD BE BUYING NEW FURNITURE. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD BUT. >> HOW BIG IS THE BUILDING? >> 42,000 TOTAL. IT IS BUILDINGS. I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. >> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.